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    the only loss here is my time as a moderator :P

    I am not banning anyone, you were quite civil in this “fight” 1

    Do keep in mind that all this has a lot of “editor wars” vibes. But the conflict goes beyond Debian (e.g. including Rust in Linux kernel), and actual harmful discussions between Rust and C/C++ people is REAL, damaging our communities, and very much driven by generations/ network-effect. And this is just sad. It’s not a technical issue, and overcoming it seems nearly impossible at the moment.

    1 I’d call it discussion, but it seems to me that ‘whoever loves Digit’ was ranting more on their own behalf… as per their own words:

    Awareness should be raised for this stuff, because people are sadly not as concerned as they should be about the state of cybersecurity right now. It’s particularly an issue in Linux / FOSS circles where there seems to be more of a false sense of security these days.

    I agree with these words, but not all you said (specifically, backdoors to me are a smaller concern in the software industry nowadays in comparison to the Redishell provided that you were unable to fully understand). Anyway, I don’t see reason to remove any of the most downvoted comments you have. But I will take the opportunity here to raise a warning to you. OR, let’s make it a personal advice: arguing on the internet is not worth the emotional toll. As with any advice, you can either take it or leave it. Good luck!

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      the only loss here is my time as a moderator :P

      I value mine more than yours, sorry.

      Do keep in mind that all this has a lot of “editor wars” vibes. But the conflict goes beyond Debian (e.g. including Rust in Linux kernel), and actual harmful discussions between Rust and C/C++ people is REAL, damaging our communities, and very much driven by generations/ network-effect. And this is just sad. It’s not a technical issue, and overcoming it seems nearly impossible at the moment.

      Is this the reason you give me a “warning” later in your reply? I’m not getting the exact point clearly. This topic is “harmful,” but I don’t think you warned everyone else discussing it? So what is the actual warning? Are you telling me not to reply in threads on this topic in the future?

      backdoors to me are a smaller concern in the software industry nowadays in comparison to the Redishell provided that you were unable to fully understand

      Backdoors are a top priority concern in consumer electronics. I hope nobody lets themselves be mislead on that fact here.

      I have no idea what “Redishell” is. I don’t think there was any point in this thread where I said anything about it, so what are you talking about with me being “unable to fully understand” it? Couldn’t you try telling me what it is and checking how much I understand before saying that? Am I totally forgetting something?

      Whatever it is, it sounds like you’re implying it’s a security vulnerability that cannot be a backdoor, which I definitely don’t understand when I have no idea what it is.

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        I am not saying this as a moderator: you’re person of obnoxious answers. Probably far too intelligent to even consider that you’re actually interacting with other human beings that may not want to engage or sacrifice their time with your rants. But I don’t ban based on personality.

        Anyway, I don’t have to answer any of your questions. Typing comes too fast on your keyboard. Try stepping away, read, click the links (like redishiel CVE), take a deep breath, live more calmly.

        I will post a reply to you reply on Redishell. So that you can check again what happened there. You went too fast and hit your own wall.

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        If your experience tells you the open source community is less vulnerable to backdoors or something, reconsider that.

        I only said that I agreed with you in those words…

        Do you think backdoors are the only threat? or the biggest?? in both cases, you’d be wrong. That’s the whole point in this exchange of opinions.