I’m new as in this is my first day using lemmy. I don’t know anything about lemmy etiquette and don’t want to do anything bad

thanks and have an amazing day! also plz be kind :D

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        1 day ago

        Because misinformation and disinformation are way more dangerous than anyone takes seriously; in my opinion, it could legitimately cause the end of our species. I think that being forced to at least have sources to support your assertion can help.

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            21 hours ago

            And he represents just one of hundreds of deadly misinformation campaigns in the last thirty years alone.

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              21 hours ago

              I’m saying when you make people who are wrong find community based on beoling wrong they get even more entrenched.

              Most people can’t tell the difference between science and bullshit.

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                20 hours ago

                Yeah, definitely. But:

                1. It’s a lot easier to answer the disinformation if you know where it’s coming from. Part of the thing that makes my head spin about the GOP news cycle is how even I (a chronically-online, fairly well-informed person) will have absolutely no idea where some people come up with the nonsense they come up with. Is it from their own mind? Is there some fringe community on Facebook doling out steaming dog piles of AI-generated anti-vax nonsense? Is it a legitimate outlet, and they’re just massively misunderstanding it? Knowing where it comes from can really help in combating it; even if you can’t stop the current fake news, you might be able to head the next one off before it takes root.

                2. Sometimes just the process of needing to find a source can make people look twice. It works for me, even: if I want to write something I’m pretty sure about, and then go looking for a source, sometimes I’ll find out that that source isn’t reliable, or that it was retracted. Sometimes I’ll even find out that what I remembered was true, but it’s way better or worse. I become more media literate sourcing my facts.

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                  17 hours ago

                  easier to answer

                  You’re still running on the absolute fantasy that people ate rational, and you’re doing worse than nothing to help when you do.

                  look twice

                  Not helpful, with the modern tendency to hitlerian readings of… Everything

                  useful for me

                  Valid, whatever you find helps, but don’t push it on others as if it will somehow safeguard truth.

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                    12 hours ago

                    No. I’m not running on a fantasy. I’m trying to bring into existence a world that doesn’t yet exist. I know that people aren’t rational, but if my mind can be changed by facts, they have to have some value.

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      1 day ago

      most people aren’t writing papers on lemmy.

      citing your sources is for academic/professional work, not casual conversation on the internet or irl.

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        And I’m saying it should be normalized, especially for high-emotion and controversial topics. It shouldn’t just be for academic or professional work, but for casual conversation, too. I don’t think people should necessarily be forced to post sources every time, but they should definitely be encouraged to do so when asked.

        Misinformation and disinformation are an extinction-level threat for our species. I’m not exaggerating. And I think that being forced to at least have a source can help.

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          9 hours ago

          You’re basically saying everyone has to get PhDs and only ever talk as as if they are an academic conference. Otherwise they should shut up and not be bale to ever contribute to any conversation.

          Do you not see the patent absurdity of that expectation?

          Further, being an academic and have a PhD doesn’t make you less susceptible to misinformation and disinformation. I have known tons of PhDs and other highly educated professionals who believe in healing crystals, astrology, and other magical thinking nonsense.

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            9 hours ago

            No, I’m absolutely not saying that. I’m saying we should normalize having sources and not just blindly repeating a thing we heard.