I understand that some of the criticism comes from conservatives but the sentiment seems to extend far beyond thst. Of course, I understand it when it’s forced or when someone only does it to survive against their will. But if people genuinely want to do it, why do people hate on them?

  • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
    22·
    2 days ago

    Whats going on??? There’s obviously a difference between a cashier or warehouse worker being forced into their labour than a sex worker forced to sell intimate access to their body?? “Their own boss” what kind of liberalism is this??? This just flattens all the discourse around “sex work as work” into “wow they just perform a service like my mechanic it’s literally the same thing!” Fuck off with that bullshit.

    I’m just gonna quote some marx here for all you people that think all labor is equally good and everyone just chooses freely what they want to do

    The economists tell us, to be sure, that those labourers who have been rendered superfluous by machinery find new venues of employment. They dare not assert directly that the same labourers that have been discharged find situations in new branches of labour. Facts cry out too loudly against this lie. Strictly speaking, they only maintain that new means of employment will be found for other sections of the working class; for example, for that portion of the young generation of labourers who were about to enter upon that branch of industry which had just been abolished. Of course, this is a great satisfaction to the disabled labourers. There will be no lack of fresh exploitable blood and muscle for the Messrs. Capitalists—the dead may bury their dead. This consolation seems to be intended more for the comfort of the capitalists themselves than their labourers. If the whole class of the wage-labourer were to be annihilated by machinery, how terrible that would be for capital, which, without wage-labour, ceases to be capital!

    But even if we assume that all who are directly forced out of employment by machinery, as well as all of the rising generation who were waiting for a chance of employment in the same branch of industry, do actually find some new employment—are we to believe that this new employment will pay as high wages as did the one they have lost? If it did, it would be in contradiction to the laws of political economy. We have seen how modern industry always tends to the substitution of the simpler and more subordinate employments for the higher and more complex ones. How, then, could a mass of workers thrown out of one branch of industry by machinery find refuge in another branch, unless they were to be paid more poorly?

          • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
            22·
            2 days ago

            yeah I’m sure they’re really stoked to be fueling your goonsessions. disgusting. fucking libs start frothing everytime someone dares call out the oppression required to maintain their treatlerite life.

                • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  2 days ago

                  blocking you now loser, I would slam the door in your biblethumping face but you’re unfortunately behind a keyboard in your mom’s basement.
                  Probably molesting your little cousin or whatever perversions you repressed fanatics do

            • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
              1·
              2 days ago

              Nah, they’re right about this one and you’re wrong.

              the oppression required to maintain their treatlerite life.

              If you don’t feel the same way about fast food workers, convenience store clerks, and baristas, your problem isn’t with the exploitation, it’s with the sex.

              • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
                1·
                2 days ago

                No it isn’t. It’s more like gig work if anything but often operates in legally gray/illegal areas with less if any chance to unionise. It’s harder work than retail, leaves you with less options in your social life, pays barely enough to get by, and is way way more intrusive to the laborer. it’s clearly not like other work. If there were no women left in the margins of society with no option, nothing to sell but access to their bodies then the porn industry as we know would die out. It’s such an idealistic view to think that a woman chooses to become a sex worker the same way she applies to be a barista or fast food worker.

                Also “her own boss” is how libs try to sell the gig economy that leaves the laborers destitute and desperate, be it uber eats or whatever else. Any john/client whatever should be treated with the same scorn as a landlord, a predator preying on less fortunate.

                • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  leaves you with less options in your social life, pays barely enough to get by, and is way way more intrusive to the laborer. it’s clearly not like other work.

                  Yeah, I forgot about all the incredibly fulfilling fast food and coffee jobs that pay a living wage and are easy to get by on.

                  It clearly is like any other service work, unless you believe sex is a magical, special sphere of human activity. And if you do, then you’re thinking magically and not materialistically.

                  • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
                    11·
                    16 hours ago

                    It clearly is like any other service work, unless you believe sex is a magical, special sphere of human activity

                    love having my reasons ascribed to me when I already laid them out, clearly I’m just a dullard while you have seen every possible argument one could make. Enjoy your sex treats I’m done wiht you all.