• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    PSG… the team that had to outspend every other team by getting illegal funds from Qatar for years and years before they won anything. Them finally winning only shows that there’s not limit to how corrupt football can become. Football truly is the world champion of corrupt sports.

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    I can’t find a single policy stance of the Renaissance Party, but tbf I don’t parlez français

    Wikipedia says they’re centre-left-right-center which has been both progressive and conservative while being socially, culturally, and economically liberal, but idk wtf definition of liberal they’re even using so that’s all gibberish.

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      Are you American perhaps ?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_(French_political_party)

      " Renaissance (RE) is a political party in France that is typically described as liberal and centrist] or centre-right."

      If you’re American you’re probably under the misapprehension that “liberal” means “left wing”, it doesn’t.

      If you click on the word liberal in the wiki page it will take you to an explanation of it.

      Tl;dr substitute “libertarian” for liberal to get a rough approximation in american of what that sentence means.

      They’re centre right economically with a positive view towards personal freedoms. Not full Ayn Rand nutbag libertarians. Closer to the sane GOP you don’t have any more left of.

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        The problem is that the right in many countries have taken to using the American definition of liberal. In my country (Estonia), the word “liberast” (basically “libtard” except gay connotation, as pederast is just gay in common parlance here, doesn’t matter if the other party is a boy or a grown man) has been thrown around plenty and it’s NOT about economic policy, I can tell ya that.

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            Oh that has little to do with tech bros, it’s the alt-right wave that started in the early-mid 2010s. I mean Facebook facilitated it quite a bit of course, but it was gonna happen regardless, it’s been sponsored by Russia among others.

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      They are social-liberals. They believe a competitive market economy is required to have a sustainable healthcare and welfare system. They believe in climate change but they don’t want extreme measures. They prefer slow measures such as banning plastic or encouraging electric cars. They support Ukraine. They sent aid to Palestine and imposed sanctions on Israeli settlers but don’t believe the problems of the Middle East can ever be fixed by outsiders. They support nuclear technology. They support legal abortion. They oppose death penalty.

      Leftists see Renaissance as right-wing / extreme-right.

      The extreme-right sees them as leftists.

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        They believe a competitive market economy is required to have a sustainable healthcare and welfare system.

        This sentence doesn’t make sense to me, or at least the juxtaposition of ideas is confusing. Because my reading is that it means healthcare and welfare systems should be connected to this competitive market economy. But “a competitive market economy welfare system” is just a meaningless word salad, so that can’t be exactly what they’re talking about.

        Or perhaps are they saying that social programs need to be supported by a competitive market economy in other areas? Although I don’t agree with that requirement, I think that interpretation at least makes logical sense.

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          It kind of makes sense in contrast to other systems IMO. Some people advocate for pure socialized healthcare, others want to maintain a mix of socialized and private similar to Germany, and some advocate for pure privatization of healthcare like the USA. To me “competitive market economy” in terms of healthcare and welfare implies the mixed option, but I’m not vouching for them because idk if that’s actually what they plan to do regardless of it is what they mean. Given their place on the spectrum they likely want to be vague intentionally so as not to upset either side of the aisle among their constituents.

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          They believe a competitive market economy is required to have a sustainable healthcare and welfare system.

          Capitalism is when the elite has captured markets, removed competition and is making huge profits with their monopolies.

          Bringing competition back to healthcare would bring down prices and make it affordable.

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          Officially, basically taxes are a neccessary evil that should be minimised as much as possible while maintaining enough income to provide necessary infrastructure. Unofficially they seem to favour the rich over the general masses (it’s one if the big complaints about Macron - “President for the rich”)

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    I logically understand rioting when your team loses, but why the fuck would you riot when your team wins?

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      how the hell do you logically understand rioting…fucking rioting when your team. loses…gife me a break, holy hell…

      such a pathetically stupid mentality be it in sports, or politics. fucking rioting is understandable… fuck off

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        There is a difference between understanding a thought process and condoning it. What’s next, are you going to tell psychologists to just shoot their patients, because obviously they can’t do anything?

        fuck off

        Calm your tits m8

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          sports team loses = riots

          politics ‘team’ loses = riots

          it’s barbaric mentality of competition. they are essentially one in the same now