You wouldn’t think of a European community of being so insanely pro Russia, yet on every single post mentioning Russia, any negative comments about Russia or their government will get downvoted to hell, some people get banned. I would not be surprised if I am banned or downvoted for posting this. People who are not just blatantly spamming Kremlin propaganda, please say why you are so pro Russia, to someone confused.
I edited my comment to elaborate a bit more, probably while you were typing your response.
Regardless, Communism != Russia. That was my point.
Literally no one is confusing post-Soviet Russia with communism.
Except lemmy.ml apparently.
If they are communists, but support Russia, then they either are not actually communists and don’t understand what that term actually means, or they are communists and don’t understand Russia.
Communists critically support the Russian Federation, supporting it’s anti-imperialist role and strong allyship with socialist states, while seeking a return to socialism. Communists also support Palestine, Iran, etc, and these aren’t socialist either.
My point is that people in general don’t understand these differences. You might. Others who read might, but the larger portion of people have no idea past the latest post-WW2 propaganda posters in the early to mid-1900s.
Left wing, Communism = bad. Right wing, communism = good.
Meanwhile very few people, including myself until recently, who actually care what they entail.
What the propaganda machines force at people for these ideals vs. What they actually mean are very different.
The people who benefit most from all the confusion is the Capitalists. Because either true communal to social living of any kind would threaten their reign. Funny that they are also the ones running the propaganda machines no?
Must be a confidence…
I think you need to re-center yourself on which community we are talking about. OP is talking about Lemmy.ml, not the general western public. We need to understand this based on the audience, and Lemmy.ml is largely communist.
They may identify largely as Communist, yet seem to not understand what that really is.
Which is why, despite knowing I will be downvoted to oblivion, I still posted here in hopes that maybe someone, somewhere, that is currently misunderstanding their place in the world, might go figure it out for themselves.
Honestly, anyone that aligns themselves with Russia nowadays is suffering from at least three forms of delusion. That’s not a meant to be an insult, but a genuine statement of concern.
Oh god thank you for saying that, we really need someone to teach us. Thank you white saviour.
oh god, now i see the error of my ways. thank you, my white saviour, for saving me from sin
The type of person to say Marx or Lenin didn’t really understand Communism
Can you explain why a communist wouldn’t critically support the Russian Federation in resisting imperialism, similar to why communists critically support Iran and support Palestine? Communists do not take a neutral stance on everything except for when socialists are directly involved, we take stances based on how they advance or hurt the global movement towards socialism.
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“Communism is a political and economic ideology that advocates for a classless society in which all property and wealth are communally owned, rather than by private individuals. The ultimate goal is to eliminate social classes, money, and the state, operating under the principle: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.””
This is the actual definition of communism.
What is yours?
You keep asserting this without evidence, despite the fact that we’ve explained the nature of and the limits to our support for Russia at this conjuncture.
If you support Russia or this clearly twisted version of Communism, then evidence isn’t something you value.
We understand both communism and contemporary Russia. We also understand “critical support.”
“ProleWiki is a collaborative, anti-imperialist, and Marxist–Leninist encyclopedia. Founded in September 2020, it provides information from a communist perspective to counter what its editors describe as liberal hegemony in Western society. It is not neutral, but instead acts as an expressly partisan educational resource for the international proletarian movement.”
So your rebuttal to me applying non-partisan critical thinking to your delusion, is to quote a wiki full of delusion.
Ok…
What I did was give you a definition for the term “critical support,” because most people aren’t familiar with the term.
No, what you gave me was a link to a website known for spreading misinformation, that gives “a” definition of critical support.
If I wanted to base my belief system on falsehoods and conjecture masquerading as truth, I would join lemmy.ml it seems.
ProleWiki gives a pretty much bog-standard definition. Compare it to Wiktionary’s definition. Is Wiktionary’s and most other definitions also misinformation?
Yes. It’s Russian propaganda
What misinformation does prolewiki spread?
Lemme guess, you think the Dems are going to save you from Trump 💀
The USSR was socialist and run by a communist party. The Russian Federation is capitalist, but critically supported by communists for its anti-imperialist role. That’s all it is.
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