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flere-imsaho 🇺🇦 (@mawhrin@circumstances.run)
circumstances.runfolks, i'm sorry to inform you that justin m. keyes, the core dev of @neovim@hachyderm.io absolutely *hated* the idea of removing an endorsement by a bona fide fascist from the main webpage of the neovim editor.
what happened: i've opened a ticket asking to remove the heinemeier hansson quote; keyes responded to the ticket a few times, first with simply “don't care”, then [with more angry elucidation](https://social.orva.fi/@orva/statuses/01M11PG7BASVGM95BM4A2ZAE0S), then closed as not planned, and finally the issue was removed altogether.
unfortunately i have only mail receipts and a screenshot, both missing the rage part of the episode.
there's [another open *undeleted* issue though](https://github.com/neovim/neovim.github.io/issues/501) which presents the attitude of keyes quite well.
added: another core maintainer of neovim, tj devries, is scheduled to speak during dhh's omacon. well.
and thanks to a friendly dm, i can re-create the text of my ticket here:
> hey
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> on the main neovim's page you quote an impression/endorsement from David Heinemeier Hansson, a [white supremacionist](https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64) who recently [called for ethnic cleansing of immigrants; specifically the roma people](https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a).
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> if you could reconsider quoting an endorsement from a bona fide fascist on your website, that would be very helpful. (please do note that duke's university [decided to drop basecamp in 2023](https://blogs.library.duke.edu/blog/2023/11/30/why-were-dropping-basecamp/) specifically because of heinemeier hansson's white supremacist antics.)
I tend to agree, I also don’t think its a useful term when thrown against many people because they might hold this kind of specific view but be progressive in many other ways, it means they can dismiss the term because they understand themselves to not be it, like when the right wing try to label leftists and progressives as “fascist”, its just not accurate.
So what I prefer is to point out something that is harder to deny, I like to point out how happy they are to hold a view or position that is held by or promoted by fascists/nazis etc. Saying to somebody that they “side/agree with the fascists” on a view or policy seems to elicit a much more emotional reaction as its not something they can easily deny and they have to confront.