• fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 hours ago

    Yeah, to this day all commercials are skippable on a DVR. It was stupid for anyone to think things with streaming would settle any differently.

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      14 hours ago

      Streaming was different for years and years. But then people got greedy.

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        13 hours ago

        Greed isn’t new, streaming companies aren’t more or less greedy than cable companies. But internet companies innovated surveillance capitalism which cable companies couldn’t do with their infrastructure. Streaming just waited to roll out unskippable ads so they could win customers early on with an artificially, temporarily better service.

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          11 hours ago

          Streaming just waited to roll out unskippable ads so they could win customers early on with an artificially, temporarily better service.

          This is the exact same thing cable did when it came out.

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            10 hours ago

            No. Cable brought improved picture over broadcast signals, brought programming to underserved areas, and had a greater number and diversity of channels. Those fundamental improvements over the prior technology never went away.

            You can complain that cable TV got more expensive over time, but you can say the same thing about cars and houses and health care.

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              10 hours ago

              No, cable was commercial-free when it first came out just like streaming was. They repeated the ota signals for the broadcast stations which of course contained commercials, but extremely similarly to streaming they started out with a quality and ad-free pitch for their own networks and then wound up pivoting to screwing over the customer any way possible.

              (As they continue to do today, btw.)

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                8 hours ago

                Some cable channels are still commercial free, all of them are since the DVR was invented 25 years ago. Watermarks suck, a DVR can’t erase those. But nothing cable has done comes close to the fuckery we’ve gotten with surveillance and tracking, targeted ads, unskippable ads that is the present and future of streaming.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Cable providers have unskippable ads on their own “on demand” platforms. I’m sure they track everything you do on their apps and their (often required for no technical reason) cable boxes. The only reason they didn’t participate more in surveillance capitalism is that they didn’t have the technical chops. They tried – and are still trying – their best to strangle broadband with needless data caps and anticompetitive agreements with alternative ISPs.

                  Cable companies were also rabidly anti-dvr as anyone who had a tivo can attest to. I’m glad you like your cable provider or whatever, but cable companies suck in the US.

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          10 hours ago

          No, but companies are made of individual people who get more or less greedy with time, like most other attributes of people. Which is why I said ‘people got greedy’.