They opted out of moving to Mattermost. After the uproar that saw the slack ceo and cpo going to hacker news to do damage control, slack gave them 5 years of free “enterprise +,” their highest tier. Apprently the slack ceo and other exec also called and apologised to the hack club founders.
It is disappointing that hack club opted to stick with Slack, but i get why they may be overwhelmed and maybe feeling the effects of a charm offensive. I’m betting, although nothing has been announced, that Slack and its Salesforce billions, is going to make a donation down the line too.
Hopefully they spin up at least some parallel infrastructure. Some of the teens were commenting that this was an eye opening experience for them about owning your data, so at least that will likely stick.
Do you have a source for the extra context you added here? I read this as they are still using Slack but working on migrating away on a more reasonable timescale (which after this kind of experience seems very sane).
The founders comments in the hacker new thread, plus some other errant ones from hack club users.
Here is there “we are staying on slack” comment:
Hi, update here (this is Christina, Hack Club cofounder): looks like Hack Club is staying on Slack.
Thanks to all of you for the appreciation and support for Hack Club, and for listening to what we were going through. The support has been amazing. Hack Club has so many cool teenagers coding awesome projects, making friends and solving problems together, and it’s great to see so many people championing them. We are glad to stay on Slack and want to do so much more with them together going forward.
Thanks to Denise and the Slack leadership team for reaching out here on hn, and in a call directly with me and Zach today. And thank you for restoring Hack Club’s terms with improvements. We really appreciate it, and we’re glad to be able to stay on Slack.
I just want to add that it was great to get to know Mattermost and the team- and the hack club engineers were actually pretty excited to move there. It’s an amazing product and for it to be open source is awesome.
She doesn’t mention the “new rate” but it was apparently confirmed internally, and there is a comment in that above thread that lists it.
Best case for their charity is likely to stay on Slack to get them as corporate sponsors, but add “data sovereignty” as a core part of their curriculum. That keeps the charity going, but instills the foss ethos in all their students.
Who knows though. They have 5 years of free slack either way because it would be incredibly bad PR to revoke it now. The runway is there to exit cleanly at least, which is a lot more than they had before.
They opted out of moving to Mattermost. After the uproar that saw the slack ceo and cpo going to hacker news to do damage control, slack gave them 5 years of free “enterprise +,” their highest tier. Apprently the slack ceo and other exec also called and apologised to the hack club founders.
It is disappointing that hack club opted to stick with Slack, but i get why they may be overwhelmed and maybe feeling the effects of a charm offensive. I’m betting, although nothing has been announced, that Slack and its Salesforce billions, is going to make a donation down the line too.
Hopefully they spin up at least some parallel infrastructure. Some of the teens were commenting that this was an eye opening experience for them about owning your data, so at least that will likely stick.
Do you have a source for the extra context you added here? I read this as they are still using Slack but working on migrating away on a more reasonable timescale (which after this kind of experience seems very sane).
The founders comments in the hacker new thread, plus some other errant ones from hack club users.
Here is there “we are staying on slack” comment:
She doesn’t mention the “new rate” but it was apparently confirmed internally, and there is a comment in that above thread that lists it.
Ah thanks. Well hopefully that’s all just lip service to cover them while they shift over to something they control anyway.
Best case for their charity is likely to stay on Slack to get them as corporate sponsors, but add “data sovereignty” as a core part of their curriculum. That keeps the charity going, but instills the foss ethos in all their students.
Who knows though. They have 5 years of free slack either way because it would be incredibly bad PR to revoke it now. The runway is there to exit cleanly at least, which is a lot more than they had before.