Goodeye8

Why aren’t you complaining about the removal of a keyboard? Or the removal of SD card slots? Or the removal or the IR light? Or the notification light? or something else that used to be there but isn’t now. Why is the 3.5mm port so special it deserves constant complaining about almost A DECADE LATER? Why must you be these grumpy old men who can’t fucking move on with the times.

I don’t really care if the port is there or not, I’m just fed up with the constant whining about it. It’s gone, the ship has sailed. The majority are more than happy to use wireless headphones, 3.5mm is a niche in the mobile space. There are alternatives if you really like wired headphones. What makes 3.5mm such fucking hill to die on? Nothing. It’s just petty conservatism of people unwilling to move on with the times.

You know you’ve got not argument when you have to compare a $700 dollar phone to a $5 dongle for your argument to even make sense.

First of all, I seriously doubt any $700 phone without a 3.5mm port is going to have a decent DAC, because there’s no reason for it. In those phones the DAC is used primarily for phone calls. If those phones had a a 3.5mm port and they were flagship phones then maybe they would have higher quality DACs in them, but then they’d also cost more. And secondly, I wasn’t talking about some cheap $5 dongle, I specifically said quality headphones.

Then maybe don’t make examples of something I never talked about? I think I’ve been very clear that I’m talking about replacing 3.5mm headphones with a USB-C headphones. I wasn’t talking about replacing a 3.5mm in/out cable with some kind of a USB-C in, 3.5mm out cable. Such a cable would have to contain a DAC and if it’s going to contain a DAC you might as well buy a USB hub with a 3.5mm out port so you can continue using your 3.5mm in/out cable while you also charge your phone. See how that’s a completely different scenario with a completely different solution?

You have headphones on in your car, listening to music, while you’re driving? I hope you’ve checked your local laws because that is illegal in quite a few countries. It’s also a very niche example as most people would use the car stereo instead of headphones.

How often do you charge your phone and listen to music at the same time? And is that really something you cannot compromise on?

Okay? Literally nothing you said applies to USB-C headphones. Except for this part:

The simplicity of simply plugging them in and it just works is something really abstract to alternatives.

Fair enough, feel free to buy USB-C headphones then.

Edit: Time for the real reply.

I never have to charge my wired headphone.

But you still have to charge your phone. When I charge my phone I also charge my headphones. Most wireless headphones notify you in advance when they’re running low, in my experience enough in advance to not run out before charging again. And finally, charging even once a day is still less overhead than having to manage wires every single time you use the headphones.

Nor do I have to buy new batteries or new headphones when they die

Yeah, you only buy new headphones when the wire gets damaged because that one time you didn’t take good enough care of the wire. I personally had to buy a new set of headphones every year because I’m bad with wires. I’d either store them poorly because I was in a hurry or they’d get stuck on something and get yanked. My first BT headphones lasted me 5 years before starting to have noticeable battery issues and then I still used them for another 3 years before the battery was so dead it wouldn’t live my daily commute.

overall my response boils down to “just use wired then” because the arguments are silly personal preference arguments and the wider consumer market has already decided that wireless is better. But if you want wired nothing is stopping you from getting USB-C wired headphones.

I don’t follow? If you mean simplicity in terms of ease of use you might as well use BT headphones as you don’t have to worry about any wire management. Ease of use is the main reason BT headphones are the go to for most people. No carefully packing the wires so it won’t break, no accidental wiring mess or anything wire related. You just turn them on (which for most in-ear ones just means taking them out of the case), stick them to your ear and you’re good to go.

If you meant anything else by simplicity you need to expand that idea.

Honestly, I don’t really get the people who complain about the lack of 3.5mm jack on a smartphone. If you’re looking for quality you’re more likely to get better quality out quality USB-C headphones than quality 3.5mm headphones due to the USB-C headphones picking up less noise and having its own DAC (which is probably better than the phone DAC that 3.5mm would use).

EDIT: I would’ve been surprised if this take wasn’t controversial. But I guess it’s a good example how the fediverse is not a leftist echo chamber. You have a loud minority complaining about not being able to use a century old technology that the vast majority in the mobile space has moved away from and any compromise on what you want is unacceptable. That’s about as conservative as you can get.

ELIS5 version. Wayland and Xorg are what draw the screen on your monitor. Xorg is based on stuff that’s 40 years old and Wayland is meant to replace Xorg as a more modern way to draw on your monitor.

Depends on how you define wiping the slate clean? Just for the users or also for the hardware and software vendors?

Because the difficulty of Linux comes from the lack of hardware and software support. If you just compare the OS then for the average user there little to no difference in terms of functionality. People probably would ever prefer Linux due to it being just generally faster than Windows. You wouldn’t pay extra to to get something that runs worse.

What people will pay extra for is the guarantee that their hardware and software just works. The only benefit Windows has is that you don’t have to worry if your hardware or software will work because in 99.9% of the time it does and if it doesn’t you can contact support and they won’t instantly tell you your system isn’t supported.

I’m in no hurry. If it comes within a year I’ll be happy. If it takes longer I’ll probably check it out unless some other app has come out that I’m also happy with.

Strictly personal reason. When the lemmy devs asked for monetary donations I voiced my concern with Lemmy.ml, which they also maintain. In response one of the devs called me a cheapskate, so I decided I’m done with Lemmy until more normal people become maintainers

Edit: forgot to add that it wasn’t the only reason. The devs themselves are rather controversial in their beliefs and moderation and I had reluctantly tolerated thoss things up to that point. The dev interaction was simply the last drop in the bucket.

Hopefully voyager dev takes a look at piefed integration. I would absolutely love to get back to voyager but for me getting away from lemmy was more important than sticking to voyager.