No. You have got to split search and ads. Otherwise the web search is going to disappear completely and replaced by social media and ai. It’s for Google s own good.

Yeah, there’s the whole ai thing. I don’t know, I got the (clearly wrong) idea that a dedicated sub may have dedicated specialists…

Can they even see that I am not using the official app?

I admit I got quite a bit worked up with the constant greenwashing found everywhere and got a bit paranoid about contributing to the problem. I will have to talk a bit more with some specialists from the labs that I will be collaborating with (hopefully they won’t tell me what I want to hear, but be honest) and perhaps I find a solution. If all fails, then fragrance free it is…

I admit I was taken aback by the certifications provided by pure oils. I will talk about it with a few labs and see if perhaps things could work. Although I still would have preferred to go with something 100 percent safe.

I still use Apollo, so nobody gets a dime from me anyway.

Seriously, things have gotten so bad there , the website is unrecognizable from years ago… I am sorry you didn’t have the platform to vent when needed. Hopefully here it will be better.

I actually checked a few options and anything fragrant is outside the water for pollinators, which makes sense. I also did check essential oils from water lilies and still hazardous to water life… the search continues.

I don’t know if there are any pleasantly fragrant aquatic plants. I will check it out, this is a neat idea.

I actually think you may be onto something.

I am very fond of the Bulgarian oil. I actually have a rose garden filled with damask roses myself. But it seems that if poured in water it can damage the plants and fishes… I wasn’t even aware of it until very recently.

No. I just got the removed by mods message.

I really get what you’re saying and obviously I intended to use a small amount to get a nice fragrance. But if enough people are going to use the product, then it can become problematic. Can I sell it then with a straight face as a truly eco friendly product? I dont think so…

Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to find anything that’s fragrant and fully non toxic. There are bio, eco and vegan claims, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be toxic…

I think they are harmful. Although I am not sure to what extent. What worries me is making a product that gets popular and enough people use it to make a (negative) impact on the environment if I don’t carefully choose the ingredients.

I suppose this could be the case , although a strange decision to limit the discussion only on the smell aspect. You should be able to talk about ingredients. Anyway, like I said, il stick around here more. Thank you for the links, I will definitely check them out.

I could, but I need to check whether this is a perfectly safe option since the aim is fragrance and zero toxicity to water life. I didn’t consider this option before, so thank you.

This is the best comment I read all year. Thank you for the laughs.

I wasn’t vaguely critical, but very clearly critical. Although I doubt it had an effect on r/ fragrance, but who knows…

Unfortunately, the essential oils, as well as the rose water and distillate are toxic to aquatic life when poured down the drain (as the case for shower gel). These are not harmful for humans, as long as it stays on clothes, skin, etc. That’s what I found with pretty much all available products when checking the FDS / MSDS.