All your arguments are based on claims that are guesses or just plainly untrue. This not not a serious discussion. It makes sense that your sources and ‘experiences’ come from vaush and twitter. Touch grass, talk to some experienced antifascist activists and maybe read some books.

Edit: and maybe reach out to a disabled community (in a respectful manner) to learn about how ableist language impacts them.

The normalisation of words like ‘stupid’ does have real life consequences to people with learning disabilities. Any time you use that word or similar words, you are not only insulting the person it’s directed at, but you’re also insulting all people with a learning disability by insinuating that they are in some way inferior, because according to you their disability is an insult in and of itself. You will not gain any sympathy from the disabled community by normalising those words. You’re pushing them away and throwing them under the bus to be targeted first.

‘Weird’ is not an equivalent word because it doesn’t define a group of people in the same way. Walz’s usage of the word ‘weird’ wasn’t to insult transphobes. It was a correct assessment that republicans are way too interested in controlling the personal lives of trans people in a way that most people would (and should) be weirded out by. It’s weird (and creepy) to find a stranger in your bedroom in the same way that it’s weird (and creepy) to have a stranger tell you how you should dress, behave and look. It’s an argument that has substance, compared to the empty argument of saying that a transphobe person is of ‘low intelligence’, especially when that’s often not even the source of their transphobia.

Substantive arguments are always better than non substantive ‘mean’ arguments as you call them. You’re not arguing to convince a nazi, you’re arguing to convince a bystander that a nazi is dangerous. A bystander needs an actual reason to be convinced, not a few mean words.

You claim a lot about antifascist strategy but your claims are not supported by historical evidence. The strongest antifascist factions have always been those that seek unity within oppressed groups. Tailism just leads to division.

It’s called tailism and it’s throwing disabled people under the bus because you can’t find a better argument that the person you perceive as bad is actually bad.

You’d rather normalise ableist language to prevent the nazi’s from coming after you than make allies in disabled communities.

Edit: just to add, tailism is not even effective. Nazi’s promote it to pit marginalised groups against each other.

Calling something or someone ‘stupid’ is just evading actual criticism. The fact is that nazi’s and anti-vaxers aren’t necessarily ‘stupid’. And people with learning disabilities are often neither anti vax nor nazi.

Nazi’s are evil because they want to remove queer people, non-white people, disabled people etc from society (probably by either killing or enslaving them).

Anti-vaxers are either dangerously misinformed or so arrogant that they think they know better than scientists who studied years to understand the human immune system.

You being neurodivergent doesn’t mean you can decide when ableism is or isn’t okay. The rules of this community are pretty clear about not allowing ableism.

Unrelated, but if being ableist is the only way you can criticise a group of people then maybe you just shouldn’t.

Several people are commenting that it is ableist. If you need an explanation then here is one I could find in a few minutes of searching: https://nicocoer.tumblr.com/post/4040763038/content-warnings-for-use-of-ableist-and

People with learning disabilities are frequently stereotyped and ridiculed with exactly the same language & body language op is using to portray the ‘tankie’. Imo it’s no different than using the r word.

Hmm yes, using ableist language to dunk on the evil tankies.

Like hayfever? Oof

The term is very commonly not used that way though, adding it to the rules will drive away leftists that also don’t like people getting run over by tanks.

Misogyny should be added to list of no prejudices since it was common on the previous community.

Also I’ll repeat my request for removing ‘no tankie behavior’ because ‘tankie’ has no consensus definition which makes it a divisive term. In this community I’ve seen several people describe all Marxist Leninists as ‘tankies’. I strongly dislike sectarianism and I would like ML’s to feel welcome here. Any posts that are harmful to the community should just be moderated on the basis of its harm.

I think most cis people don’t understand their own gender that well. If you’re trans you’re kind of forced to do research about gender to find a sense of your identity. Through this research you learn a lot about what gender entails.

I don’t think a lot of cis people can even explain how they know they’re cis lol