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  • But we are talking about the average user. And the average user uses their smartphone as their main computer. What you as a single person isn’t what the subject is. You’ve gone off topic.

    The average person is most likely using their Android (Linux) device as their “desktop”. The year of the Linux desktop has been a reality for years. They use it to call, make appointments, email, send and receive official documents, sign those documents (DocuSign), photo for business reasons and expenses, etc… I used to do inventory and order management on mine.

    “Smartphones are the most widely used devices globally, with 5.3 billion users… Laptops are used by 1.8 billion people… Desktops, with 1.2 billion users globally”

    Android is based on Linux, true but it is hardly a desktop environment

    Technology changes, and with it comes it’s shape and form. Many would have told you that a GUI is hardly a desktop environment before. What makes it “hardly a desktop environment”? And don’t say “I can’t do my job” because again, we are talking about the average user, not you.

    I’ve seen businesses run completely on Android. Most POS units are Android. They do sales, ordering (from supplies), employee payrolls, time sheets, a whole business.

    What else would it need to do, that the average user would want/need, to make it more “official”? “carrier/Google from a privacy/enshittification perspective” Pretty much every OS is having this issue, and devices can be purchased without carrier controls (I bought mine like that.)





  • Vulkan has hacked in support, but not official support. It’s like saying that because I can hack in Flash on macOS, that must mean that it has tons of support. Two different things.

    And macOS is Unix certified, but that doesn’t make it Unix (I know, it’s complicated…) To help show this, EulerOS (from Huawei) is a Linux OS.

    EulerOS is a high-security, highly scalable, high-performance, open enterprise Linux operating system

    Its was also Unix 03 certified, just like macOS. Even though it’s Linux, not Unix.


  • I mis-phrased that, sorry. In the Android case, you can’t access a lot of networking functionality and other lower level access functions.

    Running ifconfig responses with:

    Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (Permission denied). Limited output.

    Even though it is based on Linux, and has access to the ifconfig app, it’s not really something you can do. There are other things to consider like that. While you could try to give yourself root access, it’s messy and not something that’s really easy or encouraged.

    In macOS’s case, it’s Unix to a point, but try installing NVIDIA cards in them (for CUDA cores). There are Unix drivers for Nvidia cards, for x86 and ARM, but even thought it’s Unix, it still won’t work.

    How about running native Vulcan? It’s a major API for 3D graphics. It has a Unix driver, but still can’t work on macOS. Best that can be done is workarounds, but that’s not native and has issues.

    There is Unix support for these, but macOS isn’t really Unix underneath.