According to organizers of Sunday’s rally, some 5,000 to 8,000 people were expected to attend the event, soberly titled “Save Democracy,” …

During his speech, National Rally President Jordan Bardella claimed 10,000 people were present. Yet the Place Vauban, … was sparsely filled, and the true attendance figure was likely much lower. …

But for Laurent Jacobelli, a party spokesperson and parliamentarian, the event’s organization was spurred by “a very strong demand from people to voice their doubts about the judgment” in the Le Pen case.

O the very strong demand /s

No that is definitely true, in relative numbers these protests are pretty big. But in absolute numbers it’s not like protests these days in Spain for better housing or the ones in Serbia for less corruption is all i’m saying.

You don’t need to be rude to make that argument though.

This article is about the protesters in Europe, I think that’s what the numbers you mention refer to. I checked the article, it says the following:

A “Hands Off!” spokesperson told Newsweek that the coalition anticipates upwards of 1 million people to partake in events across the world.

Well ‘massive’…

“Thousands of demonstrators are taking part in global “Hands Off!” protests …, with hundreds rallying in “about a dozen” cities across Europe, a spokesperson for the mobilizing coalition told Newsweek on Saturday.”

I mean good for them but I’ve seen protests much bigger than a few thousand people spread over a dozen cities.

Thanks for the archived, very interesting article. Lots of information about the capabilities of the UK navy and also on the threat Russia poses. Here are some snippets for those who want a quick snack:

Russia is the only nation with a fleet of specialist subs for sea-bed warfare and espionage. Some surpass the capabilities of those of Britain and its Nato allies.

The investigation also found:

• Unmanned Russian vehicles have been discovered lurking next to deep-sea communications cables.
• The Ministry of Defence had credible intelligence that superyachts owned by Russian oligarchs may have been used to conduct underwater reconnaissance.
• The navy has discovered other sensors planted on the sea bed.
• The government is looking at requiring technology and energy companies to work more closely with the military and fund the protection of underwater infrastructure.

A senior serving British military figure added: “There should be no doubt, there is a war raging in the Atlantic. This is a game of cat and mouse that has continued since the ending of the Cold War, and is now heating up again. We are seeing phenomenal amounts of Russian activity.

”Whether the UK has discovered evidence of other Russian activity is top secret. “It’s a bit like the space race,” said one senior UK source. “This is a world clouded in secrecy and subterfuge, it’s very hard to get absolute clarity. But there’s enough smoke to suggest something is on fire somewhere.”

Are they pulling some good cop bad cop play? Musk saying he wants free trade like it used to be, Trump willing to do that if we accept his super attractive deal?

Right, do not see him posting something like this soon:

I have ALWAYS disliked the “European Union” but now there are “protest” against ME! Everybody has to BE NICE “from now on” or else more PEOPLE will PROTEST!

Well at least it’s hundreds in a bunch of cities and not hundreds across all cities. But to be honest, orange man and his swastikar wankbuddy aren’t the first thing I would go out on a protest for atm.

I ask because I’m sure I want more European integration but am not sure about the way forward. It would make more sense if all levels had a similar election proces. Now I vote for my the leaders of the city in it, but in the Netherlands we don’t vote for our mayor. Then I also vote for the province, same story that the leader of the provincial government is always a neutral politician. But the provinces vote for the parlement (the part that doesn’t propose new laws but the part that approves them). Then I also vote for a person in the national elections, but this person is always part of a party although you don’t for the party. If your party wins, they can choose the prime minister. Although now for the first time ever the mayor party was forced by their coalition parties to have a neutral prime minister. Then I vote for someone a person in the EU, who is in a party which itself is in a party so even though my vote influences the flavour of the European government but it feels a bit off. I mean, europe considers itself an example of the democratic world but it feels like such a mess at the same time.

Or, we help the eu out by embracing Europe :)

Last paragraph sums it up for those looking for a quick snack:

“The claim that a trade war with the US is best avoided is valid. But Trump has already started the war. The real question then is whether Europe should surrender without a fight, hoping for the unlikely benevolence of the victor (and validating its disdain for a weak and divided EU), or whether it should fight back, while remaining open to negotiation, in order to truly seek a solution to the trade war. Bending the knee to the tyrant will most likely encourage the tyrant to ask for more. Therefore, if the aim is to end an economically devastating conflict as quickly as possible, the EU must risk responding in kind to US tariff aggression.”

Do you live in one of those countries and if so, do you think you can stack more layers of government of top of the current one or will it breaks the system? I can image adding layers to the bottom is much easier than adding one on top.

I prefer federated things

Even the biggest party in the country that hosts it want it gone, ICC is under serious threat.

Rutte is like a chameleon, ask any one from the Netherlands.

I hope they hit them hard

You might like this too then: https://www.thingsihavedrawn.com/

Always makes me happy when his work shows up on my feed

It might work, but the EU doesn’t have a central entry point / organisation handling the mail so the legislation needs to be airtight if you want this to be effective.