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  • No. It’s unlikely either side will surrender. But then I don’t know what goes on inside the countries. We had an interesting Wagner mutiny in Russia for example. Something similar could happen for either side.

    Most likely outcome seems to be that eventually the Russians stop making gains and they will demand consessions (territory) that Ukraine is willing to accept. There will be some kind of guarantee for Ukrainian independence.