• mabeledo@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I really do not want to be reading through a 300 page manual from my phone

    The solution is text search. Has been for decades now. Search is good enough for these use cases, and proof of it is that nobody ever had to read a 300 page manual to fix such an issue.

    Also, you know indexes exist, right?

    The function is good. It’s arguably the best path forward. The issue is accuracy and cost.

    If the issues are accuracy and cost, it means that it is a worse and less cost effective solution than just search. Unless you believe that LLMs can tell what’s true from what isn’t.

    I honestly dont care how much it costs a trillion dollar company to provide a service to us if I dont have to pay. Google, Youtube, Amazon, Netflix, all operated in the red for years and years. I don’t remember public discourse being omg how is Google going to afford to keep giving us nonshitty search.

    You really believe that these multi trillion companies don’t make a profit? That they offer their products for free? Such a naive take.

    • Sabrinamycarpet@sh.itjust.works
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      2 hours ago

      Text search is fine but not better than something that can both find you the most likely result you are looking for AND explain it to you if its too technical.

      Text search is what Yahoo and Ask Jeeves did. Then Google improved on it by adding algorithmic search.

      I bring up accuracy because its not 100% accurate. But if it works 85- 90 percent of the time, which it currently does according to benchmarks, that’s more efficient than Text search even accounting for times you need to adjust.

      And no its not as cost efficient, but again I dont care as the end user because its not my cost.

      You really believe that these multi trillion companies don’t make a profit? That they offer their products for free? Such a naive take.

      Are you like, being purposefully ignorant here? I’m pointing out the fact that these trillion dollar companies weren’t profitable for years on end before they became so. And in the end their profitability is irrelevant to me. I don’t care how much AI costs them if they arent charging me for it.

      And stop with your pedantic “you think free is free omg” argument. Go pay with actual money for your subpar searches then while your data is still being collected everywhere

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        2 hours ago

        Text search is what Yahoo and Ask Jeeves did. Then Google improved on it by adding algorithmic search.

        There’s no such thing as “algorithmic search”. I don’t know where you got that term from, but again, not a thing. What Larry Page came up with was Pagerank, which is a ranking algorithm.

        I bring up accuracy because its not 100% accurate. But if it works 85- 90 percent of the time, which it currently does according to benchmarks, that’s more efficient than Text search even accounting for times you need to adjust

        Citation needed. Where have you seen those numbers? Because there isn’t a single LLM out there that scores above 75% in publicly available benchmarks, for any given task. Meaning that there isn’t a LLM that does any benchmarked task with an accuracy above 75%, see https://llm-stats.com/

        And no its not as cost efficient, but again I dont care as the end user because its not mycost.

        Right. What do you think it’s going to happen here in the near future? That companies like Google are going to absorb the costs without passing them to customers at all, ever? Let’s say that they don’t, because they are for profit companies after all, what’s your plan? Signing up for a couple dozen free accounts to keep using them and become sort of a “LLM vagrant”?

        But let’s say they don’t charge you ever. How do you think they are going to profit from you? Currently we know, they track your every move, you essentially pay with your privacy. Or you think they won’t? That they will forever lose money?

        I guess the part I don’t understand here is that you must know that all these companies make money from their users, one way or another, and still you believe you aren’t paying for any of it. Are you ok with how they make that money, then?