• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    If anyone needs to be monitored, it’s all of these fucking techno-feudalist freaks.

    If you know what feudalism is, and want it back so bad that you’re willing to bankroll it to the tune of billions of dollars, then you need to be monitored. At the very least. A real, functioning democracy would take those types of threats to its existence seriously.

    Instead we (e.g. any alleged form of government safe guard meant to protect us from devolving back into such barbaric forms of society like feudalism) just sit back and say “huh, I wonder if they’ll be able to completely destroy our government this time. Oh well, guess we’ll find out”. Or even worse, now that these psychopaths control the levers of government in the US, they are actually aiding it. They think they want feudalism back because they’re just temporarily embarrassed feudal lords.

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    These people literally want to make us back into serfs. And we’ll answer to a fucking LLM. That will be the only interface between us and the Lords. You know that Amazon chatbot? That’s your boss now… Err no that’s not right. The word “boss,” is not sufficient to describe the relationship. That chat bot owns you now. Well, the person who owns the server it’s running on owns you, but why would they ever choose to interact with dirty serfs when AI can do it? If it’s important, they’ll relay it to them. They won’t even be aware of your medical complaints, let alone need to hear them, let alone need to address the working conditions that created them.

    This shit is not a joke and it is very much not funny. It’s genuinely insane that we are allowing this to happen.

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      It’s genuinely insane that we are allowing this to happen.

      What are we supposed to do though? Honest question. Everything just seems so hopeless.

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    So after temporarily being the good guys for resisting trump, they’re going all in on being evil I presume to court trump?

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        Because they believe in unequality. They want you to follow certain set of morals, some of which has no basis in reality, all while they don’t follow any of it.

        They don’t hate stuff like pedophilic poor people because pedophilia is bad. They hate pedophilic poor people because they want child molestation to be exclusively of theirs, a kind of a status symbol. Similarly they want you to not be gay for some weird pronatalist obsession of theirs, all while they want to secretly go to gay parties.

        When Curtis Yarvin and others say they want feudalism back, they don’t mean a king that is nice like in the fantasy novels they read, they want the nobles to re exempt of the law. Or unequality.

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        The fist condition is not a billionaire only then it checks for everything else. It’s first and foremost a class war.

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        because capitalists are truly a different species so his peers don’t see him as gay, just as $.

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        hes also funding the police state, and he has money to keep MSM off his sexual orieintation. his defenestration of his young male model side piece barely made a blip on the msm, if at all. Also he will be overseas when shit hits the fan. funny enough he has 2 daughters, whom he is shielding.

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    guy literally told the bot he bought an AR-15 to murder the CEO and you guys are in here screaming about “pre-crime swatting” lmfao be serious for once ​hate anthropic all you want (dario is a pretentious weirdo, fully agree) but holy shit the cope in these threads. “nobody even uses LLMs”? literally every dev and sysadmin i know is quietly using this stuff every single day to cut hours of boilerplate out of their workflow. ​stay mad at closed source, fine. fight for open weights, absolutely. but pretending the tech itself is just a useless scam while the rest of the world is using it to run circles around us is just… enjoy getting left behind i guess

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      I hope that one day you have the clarity of mind (and capacity for critical thought) to look back at comments like this and cringe.

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        It’s literally where the word comes from for fuck sake. It’s not boilerplate if you’re having your indeterministic black box spit it out.

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      The workforce consists of more than software devs. In the big picture, pretty much nobody uses LLMs for anything that even remotely justifies it’s cost.

      My boss uses it to write “first drafts” of documents that I then have to rewrite 90% of because it outputs hot air and repetitive phrases instead of useful content.

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      O let the rest of the world use it until skill vanishes and target their data centers

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        article: “anthropic monitors threats to physical data centers” thread: “this is unhinged corporate paranoia!” you: “let’s target their data centers” ​congrats on single-handedly justifying their entire security budget in one sentence lmao, some threat analyst at anthropic is literally copy-pasting this into a slide deck right now

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          That’s a reaction to

          enjoy being left behind I guess

          Never said I agree with the rest of the thread. They pollute our waters and waste our energy. They should be worried about their data centers if they wanna keep doing that. Their potential threat prediction abilities are just another reason to target their data centers. If they want peace they should cooperate with the people and not surveil them. Maybe anthropics threat analyst also writes that into his slide-deck.

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      We should do more of that, yeah. Conveniently, the nazi SHIELD CEO of the whole thing died in the building as a result. Just sayin’.

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    Not rapists, child molesters, kidnappers, murderers, human traffickers, spies, or terrorists!? They are going after activists… Yeah they are fucking evil and know it.

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      Well the part of the article that quotes the actual job listing:

      Part of that role, compensated at between $180,000 and $230,000, will be to “identify, assess, track, and investigate global threats including geopolitical instability, terrorism, crime, activism, nation-state targeting of the AI sector, and emerging security trends, including deep-dive research and OSINT collection on specific threats, actors, and events” (emphasis added).

      But yeah, not a good look especially if you consider who decides what “terrorism” and “crime” mean in the US right now.

      And now for a tangent I wrote that you can just skip if you’re not interested:

      The part about specifically tracking AI activists was that they watch for anti-AI protests anywhere where their executives go so they know to stay out of the way, but… How do they not realize that they’ve brought this upon themselves? Market AI as “doing everyone’s job” and “super dangerous” and of course people will be pissed at you. Dario himself is the one constantly parroting how the next Claude model is so dangerous it needs to be kept in adamantium chains and whatnot. Like your industry is already pissing people off with the data centers and the cost of computer parts, why you gotta tell everyone you’re working to put us all out of jobs?

      Jfc I’m a software engineer with no marketing or PR experience and I think even I could do better PR than all these companies supposedly worth billions. If OpenAI is already farming outrage, just position yourself as the more responsible alternative and you’ll still get sales without your execs needing to fear for your lives… Occasionally release a smaller, less capable version of Claude as open weight to win mindshare among developers, the people actually burning tons of tokens right now. Like Alibaba does with Qwen, just don’t release the full size model like Alibaba does if you’re afraid people are going to run it in competition with you.

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        Considering all the stuff I did, unlike a human, this AI is putting me on the top of the list.

        Was nice knowing you all.

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        Thanks for the additional information.

        I am very suspicious because I saw a flock video (I know, different company) where they just happened to be training on a No King’s protest. I am sure it is just a coincidence /s

        You are correct as US terrorism is now exclusively trans, anti-fascists, and a leftwing problem. It is obviously going to be problematic having anyone, let alone the fucking psychopath they will hire for this job be the “AI whisperer”.

        You cannot audit a decision made by current LLM AI. This means you can’t even guarantee it was the AI that said it. For all we know someone could be on a terminal somewhere thousands of miles away providing the answer.

        Companies consistently lie about what they do. It would be a mistake to believe it is just to save a CEO from having to deal with a protester. Furthermore, this is a violation of other people’s rights to privacy. They don’t have the authorization to track people as a private company. They are already openly violating the law and extremely unethical. I see no reason to trust them.

        They certainly have the money for PR so why haven’t they been flexing this muscle? I think the answer is they know they don’t have to. They don’t care about public opinion because they already know they will get what they want and public opinion doesn’t matter.

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        Damn, and only for $180-$230k/y?

        That’s highway robbery salary for employment in an industry as ripe as that, somehow makes me like them even less.

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      This, right here, needs to be a rallying cry. They’re not interested in making the world a better place, they’re creating the infrastructure to help support and maintain fascism.

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    to keep tabs on activists who oppose the rapid development of artificial intelligence

    I was wondering when they’d start building Roko’s Basilisk.

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    while Anthropic was fast to call the cops on a frustrated Claude user, the Standard also reported a key detail: Anthropic refused to show police the actual messages, citing Anthropic’s internal policy. In short, Anthropic reported a user for in-platform speech, and then refused to provide police with evidence of actual wrongdoing.

    Anthropic’s apparent game plan:

    1. Get a list of anti-AI advocates
    2. Swat them
    3. Refuse to show evidence of claims
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    I don’t want to be all “I told you so” but I have been saying they’re building all these data centers for surveillance reasons for a while now. Like people aren’t using LLMs enough for any reason to justify all the data centers and the numbers aren’t growing, but Surveillance Data? That’s always growing.

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      I heard someone say the other day that most of the time when there’s a ‘bad’ technology it starts off as something good that everyone likes, and gradually becomes bad over time, like social media. But AI is something a bit more rare in that it came out and the majority of people didn’t especially want or like it, but it really feels like it’s being ‘forced’ into existence, so to speak. Which makes me think there’s something else going on.

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        That’s just because it’s your bubble AI was used excessively before with stuff like deepl for translation, dragon speak for speech to text, in medicine it was used all the time for images, like CT or met scans and a lot in ultrasound. Further most vocaloids are basically AI too.

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          i tend to call that stuff “ML” (machine learning) instead if AI thanks to the dumbass marketing of today. been working in ML for decades.

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          Anyone talking about AI in any context in a normal forum nowadays is discussing LLMs. Nobody cared about machine learning or neural nets that were actually being used for their designed purpose.

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        I did remember that people did sorta liked it during the days it was still just AI Dungeon and AI-Generated anime girls. Though AI has always been around, being used for simple chatbots (remember BEN Drowned Cleverbot?)

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      Yup. It’s a scary time. You take some LinkedIn data, some Walmart shopping habits, a Spotify user catalog, a Google timeline, combined with Flock footage - mix it all together with “AI” - and suddenly you’ve got an extremely detailed profile of any individual you want. And we’re only in the early stages. That is, spying, prediction, eavesdropping… The only logical conclusion to the surveillance apparatus is an evolution towards an apparatus for control. And it will be the most sinister, subtle, and undetectable type of coercion imaginable.

      I just want to grill for gods sake.

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        mix it all together with “AI”

        And this is the biggest problem of all. Nobody can explain why the AI picked a specific record to escalate its “suspicion”. Nobody is accountable when it picks the wrong person, or when it creates suspicion without any actual wrongdoing taking place.

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          Knowing you can be disappeared any time, even if you do nothing wrong, will certainly keep you down, and subservient.

          I bet that’s what Epsteins experiments were…torturing and breaking children in various ways to see at what point they would co-operate with anything, including their own deaths.

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          All the better when they start going after whoever they want because “AI” said so. The reality is this is just the excuse they were looking for.

          Lying AI decided to pull you over today sir, would you mind telling me why?

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      People talk shit about Palantir’s valuation but if it’s the new Stasi OS, it’s relatively cheap looking forward to a totalitarian police state.

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      They’re definitely not. Hard drives use a fraction of the energy a single LLM prompt does. A study calculated that every 100 words uses an entire water bottle’s worth of water. That’s a lot of cooling for 100 words. It’s very likely that these companies use several gpus for every single prompt, meaning huge servers for just a few users.

      Meanwhile the internet archive has archived a significant portion of the internet with nary a data center in sight.

      You can compress video. You can’t compress the energy needed to generate output.

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        just fyi the internet archive storage is most definitely in a data center or 3. your hospitals use data centers, schools too. just not at the scale of ai types.

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          The Internet archive doesn’t have an entire data center just for archiving is what I’m saying. Not that they don’t use data centers.

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        All the hard drive do is storing the data, they do need the data centers to comb through them for any patterns they deemed to be a threat to them

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          Which still doesn’t require as much energy as LLMs do. I run exactly that on my own server at home. And my unifi system does it on video all locally with no GPU at all. Video processing for identification is incredibly cheap and easy from a computer processing standpoint these days. You literally can do it on a raspberry pi.