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    Even without interference communism can never work, it’s not how human nature works, it relys on everyone being on the same page which will never happen

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    3 hours ago

    It doesn’t matter what ideology. If the people running it are rotten, any system can be corrupted.

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        Can you explain how you disagree? Is it about incentives to be corrupt (or against) depending on the system?

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          If you believe in great man theory™ and think that all political developments happen because one person can magically steer entire countries and the world, in geo-political terms, or idealists in thinking that if you have the correct ideas, you can magically steer the entire rest of the world to whatever you think, by having the correct thoughts. Then your theories of political developments are non-materialist, like this comment is objecting to. The system sets the conditions of who is going to be empowered or rewarded for their actions and positions.

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          I am not that person, but I guess you wouldn’t like the ambassadors of fascism to be efficient and competent.

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    And it often comes into being because of a CIA coup

    It’s like the chicken or the egg question.

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    There’s never been any real communism. If a country has money then it is inherently a capitalist society .

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      Communist can run a society that is not yet achieved communism. Not sure if you’re being purposely dense or not.

      Also, currency does not define a society as capitalist. We’ve have currency long before capitalism ever existed.

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        I don’t think money makes a society inherently capitalist, money predates capitalism by a loooong time, but I agree that if it has money it isn’t communist. It can be on its way to communist, a transitonary state, and depending on your definition it can be socialist, but communist is explicitly a moneyless, classless, stateless society. So, yeah, if it’s got it money, it’s not communist, but saying it’s capitalist is to create a false dichotomy of there only being fully realized communism or capitalism, with nothing outside of or in-between the two.

        Eta: replied to the wrong person in the thread. Whoops. Meant to reply to the original commenter on this thread.

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          The comment your replying to (or meant to) has to be being purposely dense. There is obviously a difference between being a communist, having a communist party take power, and “achieving” communism. No one with a brain would think the OOP was talking about the last use of the word in that sentence.

          It’s a common “dumb guy that thinks they’re being smart” take because they haven’t actually ever read a book in their life. They just read the definition of communism once.