• CybranM@feddit.nu
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    2 days ago

    How would you limit immigration without creating laws and stopping people when too many arrive?

    Freedom of movement is good in a vacuum but not feasible in our current world. The best would be if developed countries could uplift those that arent and the need for people to move would be reduced.

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      2 days ago

      You’ve answered your own question, ending imperialism and colonialism so that unequal exchange doesn’t create massive wealth disparities between nations and war no longer displaces people en masse, thereby “uplifting” formerly exploited peoples, would remove most of the incentives for mass migration. In a world at peace with itself borders are not necessary. Ask yourself, why is there no need to criminalize immigration between states/provinces within a country such as the US? Because the US, for the time being, is a nation at peace with itself. It doesn’t have to be a perfect utopia - the US most certainly is not - to eliminate the need for border security / immigration control. Even a tenuous peace and a dubious justice is enough to eliminate the need for border enforcement.

      Edit: This is a good write-up about how the criminalization of migrants does not even serve as an adequate deterrent to migration anyway. It is not only unjust, it’s futile.

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        1 day ago

        Ok, so just wishful thinking then. The problem is we live in the present, not some utopian future.

        Ask yourself, why is there no need to criminalize immigration between states/provinces within a country such as the US?

        Now you’re just copying my comment and changing the timeframe lol.

        Can you elaborate on how you think turning the world into a utopia would be achievable?

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          1 day ago

          So clearly you didn’t fully read my comment, so why should I expend the effort typing out a response? It would be a waste if you’re just going to read part of it and then ask questions I’ve already given the answer to.

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            18 hours ago

            ask questions I’ve already given the answer to

            You have given a vague idealistic vision, not an answer.

            ending imperialism and colonialism

            And how exactly would that happen? Id like you to elaborate if you have any ideas