• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 days ago

    Bro they have literally had the same man in power for the last 25 years.

    Wrong, they have a federal government system that you naively think is “one guy runs everything” like a marvel movie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Government_of_Russia

    The elections are far too one sided to be legitimate

    According to some random on the internet? Then what does that say about, for example, Ukraine, where opposition parties have been openly banned and elections have been canceled altogether? What possible reason is there to support such a government?

    They enforce heavy military propoganda

    What does it mean to “enforce heavy military propoganda”? You mean like we have at NFL games, only scary and foreign? Literally what do the thought-terminating cliches you’re using even mean, and how do they not apply to us?

    They have wealthy oligarchs while they working class is barely scraping by

    So like…they’re a capitalist country, but scaaary and foreign?

    And they have been trying to forcefully take land from other countries for years at the expense of citizens of both sides

    Other country, singular, because that’s how warfare works. I’m not sure if you realize that’s how warfare works, but it is. It’s weird of you to just say countries plural as if you’re not expecting anyone to fact check you. In fact, that’s kind of how you guys talk about any country the US tells you to hate in general: the strongest possible existential condemnation in the vaguest and most projection possible terms.

    Please explain how everything I said isn’t true, or would you rather just hurl empty insults again instead and make yourself look even more ridiculous

    Sorry, I don’t entertain the vague fever dreams of de facto nazi supporters who hold childlike beliefs about good and evil that they selectively apply to entire countries. Start talking in concrete terms if you want to be taken seriously, or would you rather just lean on empty cable news-ass buzzwords again and make yourself look even more like a hysterical dorkass?

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      For the record you seem to believe I support America, I don’t.

      He maybe doesn’t have the control of the entirety of the country, but has been the central figure for 25 years. That simply doesn’t happen legitimately in a country that isn’t basically a utopia, and we all know Russia is far from that.

      No I meant other countries, they have been manipulating the border along Georgia as well, just not as forcefully.

      I urge you to watch some of their military parades and festivals, they are straight up dystopian.

      By all means, keep deluding yourself into thinking Russia is somehow on the right side of this, just don’t be surprised when the world keeps get worse.

      The fact that my original comment was straight up deleted speaks volumes about this community. I was banned from reddit for speaking out against ultra conservatives (in America specially) so I came here. Turns out this community is literally no better than the other side

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        Putin gained mass support because he sided with the nationalists that kicked out the western imperialists that were looting the remnants of the former USSR’s industry. The 90s were a period of violent reaction, devastation, and incredible poverty for the whole of Eastern Europe. The liberals want to capitulate to the west, and repeat the 90s. The nationalists want to retain the status quo, where the wealthy Russian capitalists retain their hold but without handing over everything to western imperialism. The leftists want socialism again, and this number is rising dramatically:

        Trying to understand complex geopolitical issues through a frame of “good vs evil,” rather than a class analysis, pushes you into all forms of absurd contradictions. You need to understand, in Russia hardly anyone supports the liberals, so the nationalists are seen as the best thing by most people outside of the growing Russian left. That’s why Putin keeps winning elections.

        Final tidbit, leftists are far better than fascists, and it isn’t even close to comparable. The idea that we are “no better than fascists” just because we disagree with your analysis is wrong, the left stands for progress and the end of western imperialism, we support the working class, not the imperialists and the capitalists.