“If Europe suddenly wants to start a war with us and starts it,” Putin said, then it would end so swiftly for Europe that there would be no one to negotiate with in Europe. Putin used the Russian word for “war”. He also suggested that the war in Ukraine was not a full-blown war and that Russia was acting in a “surgical” manner which would not be repeated in a direct confrontation with European powers. “If Europe suddenly wants to fight with us and starts, we are ready right now,” Putin said.

NOTE: imo there is a lot of saber-rattling going on lately. Its all part of the political game. Pls let’s keep our heads cool with clickbait titles and speculations. I can sympathise with the worries and that these are trying times for us.

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    That bloated cunt needs to shut his ugly fat face. The Russians can’t do shit.

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      Another 3-day special military operation?

      According to Putler’s rhetoric:

      If Europe keeps “sabotaging the peaceprocess”, then Europe needs to be “denazified” as well.

      Such an incredible Psycho. Many real fascist in Europe have FSB/ RF liasons. It’s all just inverted reality," Psycho psyops".

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    They are struggling with their “not a full-blown” war a bit too much to make that a credible threat …

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      No no he is now calling it war. A war in ukraine. But…according to russian media and him we are already at war with him and fighting him in ukraine. So i guess he is talking about war²

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    Sure putin. Big mouth and nothing to show. Come on, chicken, go into poland. They are waiting for you. They are hungry

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          The thing is Finland dies not want that land back. The russians have so thouroughly ruined it that it has pretty much no value left and it’s been so long it barel even has any connection to Finland left.

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    Putin or Russian state media threatened us several times already with their nukes and how they’re going to fight us. This isn’t anything new. He was already supposed to nuke us when we sided with Ukraine, gave money to them, when we provided weapons to them. I believe something like that was said in connection to the sanctions. There was supposed to be a skirmish in the baltic sea if we don’t let the rusty oil smuggle ships pass… and then there was a new threat with each new delivered weapon type, tanks, missiles, aircraft and probably countless other incidents when Russia supposedly was going to engage in war with the rest of Europe. Yet here we are…

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      First rule about compulsive liars: There is always a bigger lie. Especially when your last lie is exposed.

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      Simply because he has no problem to send millions of people as cannon fodder against EU, like he is doing in Ukraine.

      And in his mind, as long as he is alive, he win. Never mind if his country is destroyed.

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        There are only so many Russians to be sent as cannon fodder before you run out entirely.

        Trying to do what’s being done in Ukraine with multiple fronts? Zero chance of any success.

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          There are only so many Russians to be sent as cannon fodder before you run out entirely.

          True, but probably they are more than the ones EU can send.

          Trying to do what’s being done in Ukraine with multiple fronts? Zero chance of any success.

          From a pure logical point of view you are right, but in reality there is nothing that prevent him to do it. Which do not imply that he can win obviously, he just need to be able to go on longer than EU.

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            I mean, Europe minus Russia has what, like 4x the population of all of Russia?

            Russia would be stretched dangerously thin trying to fight on multiple fronts, it’s already putting serious strain on their whole nation.

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        But he apparently can’t win a war doing so in one country. what would make his thread more realistic when attacking a union of countries?

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          Was not yet finished. And, aside him being alive at the end, every concession to Russia is a win for him, And to pull the trick again sometime in the future.

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        You mean the same France, Uk and USA had ?

        Putin is not stupid enough to not understand that if he ever try to use a nuke he will be the first target of the retaliation.

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          France or the UK would not start a nuclear war with Russia over the Baltic states, Poland, or Finland, as that would spell their own demise. Nor would they do so for Germany, Italy, or Sweden. And the US cannot be relied upon.

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            You’re under the impression that France, the UK and the US would stand idly by as nukes start to drop around the globe?

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                I’m convinced that if one nuke drops, then they will all start dropping at a rapid rate.

                This is why no one ever actually uses them, because as soon as you do, it’s game over

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                  That would lead to the complete destruction of France/UK. Why would they do that?

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            I agree, they would not start. But if Russia start, they surely will retaliate: a nuke in the baltic states or even nearer will cause harm also to them. And France has a strange nuclear doctrine.

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              Why would they? That would mean the end of France/UK or even of humanity.

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                True. Problem is: how do you respond to someone that use a nuke ? If Russia use a nuke, it is the end either way: if other retaliate the situation escalates, if they do not retaliate Russia think they have free hand.

                During the cold war the only thing that prevented a nuclear escalation is the certainty of mutual destruction, nothing else.

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      iiuc, some analysts say bluff, others say it makes clear Putler doesn’t want peace, others say Putler, Chinan, NK and Iran want to proactively destabilise Western democracy in order to create a new world order. I’m inclined to conclude, probably all the above mentioned reasons. And, to my dismay, depending on how one looks, they’ve been petty successful in their long-term plans.

      From a neg. pov:

      • destabilising EU: corrupted national and EU politicians, Brexit, Hungary, Slovenia; Invasion & annexations Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia.
      • destabilising USA: supported and influencing US politics and the rise of Trump.
      • Africa: destabilising sahel region, rising Ruso-Sino influence, Suez canal.
      • Middle-East: destabilising Syiria

      From a pos.pov.:

      • rallied democracies to become more unified; i ncreased decoupling of delivery chains, more independent critical elements & scrutiny concerning Western and Ruso-Sino economic ties.
      • awakened awareness of dependencies and fragility of democracies in all continents ( who’s friend and foe).
      • push for more ( green) energy and technological autonomy

      It’s now all in flux and there is a strong momentum now, indicating that the outcome will be maybe decided in the next 1 -5 years. Have most probably missed many things…This is just my take after reading some analysis.

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        The only possible missing ingredient is if Putin has a terminal illness and unfettered control of Russia’s nuclear arms. Similar problem with Trump, but his dementia will hopefully prevent the worst as he’ll lose the ability to make those decisions, and his handlers presumably want a continued existence on this planet (for now).

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    It’s probably a strategy to create extra pressure concerning the ongoing negotiations and “peacetalks”.

    #E:syntax