Are you seriously suggesting people should stay at employers who force them to share their paycheck with Bill Gates to be inundated with malware instead of switching to Linux?

And are you seriously implying that applies even for a person who is spending 30% of their work time dealing with the malware specifically?

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You’re literally one of the people working a job that heavily involves Windows, how do you pretend you’re not one of the people that decides whether this changes? The cult of denialism is mind boggling. If you don’t want to change the fact that you work at a Windows-supporting job, that sounds like why you are at a Windows-supporting job, not that it’s impossible to change

Oh.

Coding is “illegal” now, remember?

Still not getting your point. Is there a reason I should read about Redishell?

the only loss here is my time as a moderator :P

I value mine more than yours, sorry.

Do keep in mind that all this has a lot of “editor wars” vibes. But the conflict goes beyond Debian (e.g. including Rust in Linux kernel), and actual harmful discussions between Rust and C/C++ people is REAL, damaging our communities, and very much driven by generations/ network-effect. And this is just sad. It’s not a technical issue, and overcoming it seems nearly impossible at the moment.

Is this the reason you give me a “warning” later in your reply? I’m not getting the exact point clearly. This topic is “harmful,” but I don’t think you warned everyone else discussing it? So what is the actual warning? Are you telling me not to reply in threads on this topic in the future?

backdoors to me are a smaller concern in the software industry nowadays in comparison to the Redishell provided that you were unable to fully understand

Backdoors are a top priority concern in consumer electronics. I hope nobody lets themselves be mislead on that fact here.

I have no idea what “Redishell” is. I don’t think there was any point in this thread where I said anything about it, so what are you talking about with me being “unable to fully understand” it? Couldn’t you try telling me what it is and checking how much I understand before saying that? Am I totally forgetting something?

Whatever it is, it sounds like you’re implying it’s a security vulnerability that cannot be a backdoor, which I definitely don’t understand when I have no idea what it is.

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Then I get half of a not-top-2 distro. And even the “giants” (Ubuntu / Fedora) are too small to develop full stability for their half-distros. Bad situation

systemd

Looks like it’s already time to move away from MX Linux. That sucks. Whole Linux ecosystem back to getting worse instead of better?

That all lines up with what I’ve heard. Thanks for the comprehensive reply 🤙

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Nice, thank you

Why?

Same. Lyft stole my time and gas money refusing to pay me for a ride I gave someone when I was driving for them

So this link shows a comment for you, not just a blank space? https://piefed.social/post/1458050/comment/8784509#replies

Here’s a screenshot of what I’m seeing

Nope, not seeing it there

Weak gaslighting attempt but if you could show me where to find it documented I would appreciate that.

If anyone is confused, feel free to ask me for proof I’m telling the truth. If I posted it here, I’m pretty sure I’d be at risk of getting banned for evading the post removal (because the proof would also lead you back to the reply chain that was removed)

Edit - maybe this counts as proof without showing any removed content:

https://piefed.social/post/1458050/comment/8784509#replies

If you click the link, it’s blank, yet it has a “parent comment” link that leads to where I was replying

Edit 2 - tried to post an archive link but archive.org didn’t seem to work the way I thought?

Is the link I posted above showing what I described for other users?

Strange how your bad faith reply is still here, and with many upvotes, while my reply calling you out appears to be gone.

This is an example of how discussions like this are more appropriate for nostr, where there are no bans / post removals.

Essentially, yeah.

Noticed an overall “vibe” where Rust critics repeatedly have points that sound like they make sense, and I can’t really think of examples of them saying confusing nonsense, or refusing to elaborate on a point when challenged to. Whereas, other way around for Rust defenders.

Best way I know to determine what’s “sus” is to look at what’s defended by people who are willing to elaborate on the points you ask them to elaborate on. It’s almost a perfect gauge. But maybe not quite perfect, and you could totally call it “vibes.” I remain not totally certain about Rust.