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Just because you can use hammers to hurt people doesn’t mean we should ban all hammers.
And just because people keep hammering screws doesn’t mean hammers aren’t useful.
No Ai without UBI. Should have started UBI at least at the industrial revolution.
The current technology is a dead end, and we need to go back to the drawing board with it.
But before we can do that, we need to sell the current version, because we lost a lot of money on it…
AI is a tool. Misuse it and it sucks.
under capitalism every tool is a tool for capitalism and will be misused.
That’s right.
AI is a tool to transfer even more wealth, under the current conditions.
GenAIs are a mistake, but corps decided to stuff billions into it, and they want their money back.
Sounds like “the purpose of the system is what it does.” Every invention that gets funding does that. I watched the development of ML techniques over the last decade or so; none of the researchers developing AI would have said that was the purpose. They had much loftier hopes for AI.
Yet the owners don’t care.
I hate that it’s pushed as a holy grail.
You can also misuse it and it sucks (NSFW).
requiring state of the art GPU for a flesh light Is some kind of Futurama joke that i missed because I never watched Futurama.
LLMs seem to be great for translations and… transcriptions?
I know Google sucks, but I will give a little credit to the newer Pixels’ “Circle to Search” feature. It’s nice to pull up an image and just circle search it and see where it came from, or the context behind it, etc etc.
Circle Search and the two you mention are probably the only actually useful things to come out of AI so far.
Summary stuff works really well too - I like to be able to bookmark a page and have tags/brief summary auto-gen’d
It’s also useful for finding stuff in large documents or codebases. For example, I was recently trying to understand how different concepts in a paper related to each other, and LLM was able to find the relevant parts of the paper which helped me piece things together.
Most of the time these abstracts are fine. But I’m wary of it because of the cases where it doesn’t. :)
yeah, but for my personal bookmarks a hallucination is not a big deal, not exactly mission-critical lol
They really are! We should use tools for what they are good at and not try to cram AI into everything. Something something hammer, nail, right?
Yes. It’s normal human behaviour. There is a hype, then a bubble, then… normalization.
Multimedia, keychain, blue LEDs, curved LCD screens, LLMs,… One of them is way less useful than the others.; P
Like everything else since the advent of harnessing fire, it’s a double edged sword that can be used for good and evil.
While AI offers transformative potential, significant criticisms highlight its drawbacks. Current systems often perpetuate biases embedded in training data, leading to discriminatory outcomes in hiring, law enforcement, and lending. The environmental cost of training large models—like massive energy consumption and carbon emissions—raises sustainability concerns. Automation driven by AI threatens job displacement, exacerbating economic inequality, while opaque “black-box” algorithms undermine accountability in critical domains like healthcare or criminal justice. Privacy erosion, through pervasive surveillance and data exploitation, further fuels distrust. Though AI’s capabilities are impressive, its unchecked deployment risks deepening societal inequities and prioritizing efficiency over ethical considerations.
AI sucks, but HR sent me some forms to fill in and I would rather a shitty corpospeak AI response than putting effort into answering it myself.
I used to be excited for AI advancements 3 years ago. Now the situation is just trash. Good times when generating a Godzilla farting fire on a city was fun and cool
Hating AI is just the new hip thing to do, and it’s just become a way to signal group membership for people. It’s frankly sad.
I understand it as being similar to industrial workers opposing automation in factories under Capitalism, where technological progress ends up ultimately serving Capital, rather than supporting the proletariat. Office Workers have largely not had this same struggle until now, and are engaging with this contradiction for the first time.
This is further compounded by increased power costs in a climate where that isn’t abundant, the dumping of Finance Capital into the sector just to chase profits from an emerging, rather than established market before the TRPF makes profits more scarce leading to over-application, and the lack of compensation for artists and writers that end up training these models.
I haven’t fully formed my opinion on AI yet, but this article did give a good Marxist reason why it shouldn’t be dogmatically opposed and has its uses for the Proletariat under Socialism.
Exactly, the hate for AI is reactionary in nature. What people are actually upset about is how this tech ends up being applied under capitalism, and that’s where the anger should be directed. It’s also worth noting how differently AI is applied in China where it’s predominantly used in industry and robotics. Even stuff like LLMs are being applied towards socially useful purposes like improving healthcare or government services. There’s also a big difference in the way it’s being developed with Chinese companies treating AI as a commodity, often releasing models as open source and aiming to optimize them for efficiency, while western approach has been to try and make them into services that can be monetized.
Personally, I’ve found AI to be a very useful tool for coding. It’s sped up my workflow significantly because it’s able to handle a lot of boilerplate. It’s particularly good for stuff like making UIs quickly. I can throw some sample JSON at a model and have it produce a decent looking React component. It used to take me hours to figure out styling and handling different behaviors, which I find really tedious to do. I also find it’s very handy for discovering language features. I haven’t had to work with JavaScript for a long time, and the language evolved significantly since I last touched it. Now I have a project using it at work, and I can work with the language much faster without having to constantly hunt for how to do a particular thing using it.
My experience is that this is already a useful tool, and it’s only going to keep getting better going forward. At the same time, it’s not magic, and you still have to learn how to get the most out of it and how to apply it effectively.
And a couple of more articles I can recommend that have good takes on the subject.
Thank you for your perspective, I’ll check out those articles. I can see AI applied to my workspace to reduce tedious data entry and simple calculations that are simple overall but unique on a case-by-case basis, in a manner that under Socialism would certainly be a boon for us for the parts of our job that require such mundane tasks, leaving the more mentally stimulating tasks for more direct involvement.
I still think it risks being over-applied, and certainly already is in the US, but that’s a matter of correctly identifying its use and where it should be cast aside.
I very much agree, we’re now in the hype phase of this tech and people are trying to use it for everything. Eventually, we’ll settle on the use cases that actually make sense. It’s going to be interesting to watch how it gets applied in places like Vietnam and China compared to the west as well. We get to see a direct contrast of how potentially transformative tech will be applied under socialism and capitalism.
Yep, we will have to see where it goes! Just like automation, we have to be careful but not fearful outright.
Fun times ahead, and at the end of the day I do think the key part is to redirect the hate from the tech itself towards what’s actually causing problems. Whatever we may think of AI, it’s no longer possible to put toothpaste back in the tube so to speak. This tech exists, and it’s not going to go away because people are mad about it. It’s better to be constructive and focus the discussion on how it’s going to be applied going forward.
Exactly, if we are to be Marxists, we should be evaluating how any new technology or idea can be beneficial to the working class, and discard what isn’t while keeping what is. The fact that AI has already helped solve legitimate problems in the field of science and helped alleviate workloads proves that it at minimum has some usefulness and can be pushed in a positive direction, even if it is more often than not used for automated commercials and scams at the present moment. Controlling it and limiting its excesses is the primary issue, but then we can carefully apply it where it does legitimately have value.
Damn kids worrying about the environment… What a bunch of losers trying to be hip.
Ai sucks
Right should be “there is no AI”
Nah the guy on the right understands that AI means almost anything. Hell, even the A* pathfinding algorithm falls under the realm of AI.
Fucking thank you! I swear way too many people think that if it ain’t Data from Star Trek, then it’s not real AI.
Its like these people don’t understand language changes overtime, it doesn’t matter what ai used to mean it matters what it means now
What exactly does it mean right now?
LLMs
Who decides that?
Scientific consensus. But it’s not “LLMs”. AI covers multitudes of methods, algorithms, models. LLMs fall into sequence modeling / prediction, usually based on transformers nowadays, which is a method from machine learning, which itself is a big branch inside of the term “AI”.
Society collectively when, whenever a person or company talks about AI, they’re talking about chatgpt, Gemini, deepseek, ollama, or whatever other LLM you want to substitute it for
A NAND gate is AI
AI is a useful tool even in its current condition. And it has perspectives. It is mostly overcharging artists and SEO spammers who are against it.
Why would SEO spammers be against it? 90% seems to be written by LLM’s already.
Because those “AI” are very good at writing keyword-ridded gibberish making SEO spammers obsolete. 1 SEO spam admin can “work” as a hundred human shit article concocters.
The same thing with artists. They used to get a few bucks for primitive images. Most of those artists are actually unable to draw anything but “primitive images”. “AI” throws them away from the market.
Do you have no understanding of anything ever.
Do you think good artists just magically appear
Few artists overcharge. That’s a strawman. Most massively undercharge
