• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 days ago

      People dont have money to spend on 20-50k€ toys when they can just use public transport or cycle to work. I assume the same is happening with the expensive fossil fuel cars.

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        6 days ago

        That is not the problem.

        It is far more simple than that.

        We are in a recession, people simply don’t have the money to buy a new car, when they can get a used car with a far better value.

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          6 days ago

          Thats literally what i wrote lol…
          People dont have money, so they will use cheaper alternatives. Thats why i wrote “expensive fossil fuel cars” because its about the price, not the technology. If there were cheap EVs then this wouldnt be happening.

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          4 days ago

          Where I live people have more than enough, but they don’t care for these ridiculous electric SUVs. Make sane cars whose price is justified.

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            4 days ago

            Yeah, I hate the current SUV and crossover style infecting every car model.

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        6 days ago

        This is about EV demand slowing down.

        But if you can use public transport or cycle to work, you shouldn’t drive a car anyway, EV nor combustion engine. We need less cars in our cities and more public transport imho.

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      4 days ago

      BYD got stomped on by tariff. The only pattern is the fact that the oil barons are waging a war against electric vehicles and winning.

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        22 hours ago

        The absolute majority of trips are short, combined with EV infrastructure getting better every day and still has lots of room to grow.

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          That’s true, but when people pay a fuck ton of money to buy a car, the expectation is that it will be able to handle longer trips as well. Sure, your every day may be to the supermarket and back, but you also want to load up the skis and go to the local mountain on the weekend, or to the beach in summer, meaning many hours driving in potentially very hot or cold weather - which affects the battery.

          Doesn’t matter how good the EV infrastructure is, imho a car needs good range otherwise you might as well use public transport or ride a bike.

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    4 days ago

    There’s overcapacity for cars in the world because the Chinese are fighting an internal price war due to overcapacity…, while at the same time no one has money to buy more expensive cars.

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    4 days ago

    They had the moment of a lifetime when Musk redoubled his efforts to make Tesla unpopular… and they completely failed to grasp it.

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    6 days ago

    German electric car driver here.

    VW has a bad reputation regarding EVs. Their butchered woke of their models so much, they went up in flames.

    Other EVs seem to go better. BMW dominates the market for German EV I think

    Just for context