It wasn’t a good idea to call people eggs before and it’s an even worse idea now. That said, I hope “skirtcurious” catches on :3

  • brookedSmile@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    78·
    5 days ago

    A woke identity terms trivia contest on fox news? Jfc these people think about trans people more than trans people think about trans people.

  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
    41·
    5 days ago

    It wasn’t a good idea to call people eggs before and it’s an even worse idea now.

    *looks a community name*

    …

    🤔

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      462·
      5 days ago

      You generally shouldn’t call people eggs, not only because it could scare them away from self discovery, but because only they themselves can define their gender. Calling someone an egg is essentially invalidating their gender, and regardless of context that shouldn’t be taken lightly. This “egg prime directive” is a good rule of thumb, but like the real prime directive, it’s not absolute and is often misunderstood. It’s less about protecting them from difficult ideas, and more about protecting them from you. You can easily mess things up and push people further into the closet, or you can simply be wrong about them being trans.

      On the other hand, that doesn’t mean non-intervention is the right call, nor does it mean you can never tell them what you really think. Eggs almost always need knowledge about being trans, and sometimes they even need a more direct push. However, you can never decide for them; they always need to define themselves in the end.

      edit: essentially, you can’t call someone an egg until they’re no longer an egg. It’s the egg paradox

      • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
        6·
        4 days ago

        I mean, you shouldn’t harass people on the internet, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with telling people that being trans is a thing they might be.

        Being queer isn’t a math problem inside your heart that you, and you alone, as an atomized individual, must find the perfect solution to. People are social creatures and sometimes that outside perspective can help people figure their shit out.

        This whole “egg prime derective” mumbo jumbo feels like coming out, and everyone around you saying “yeah, we knew! :)” Damn, that’s crazy, I wish y’all told me sooner

        • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
          5·
          4 days ago

          It’s like the Star Trek prime directive; it’s a guideline that can be broken, not an absolute rule. You can tell someone that they might be trans if it’s clear that it’s the push they need. However, you do need to make sure that they’ll be receptive to the idea before you say anything. At the end of the day, it’d just be your judgement, and your judgement could be wrong.

        • tr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          4 days ago

          When someone is just told they are trans, that opens ground for denial; it activates defense mechanisms built by internalized transphobia, and it has a high probability of pushing them further into the closet, if not making them outright transphobic. Even when it doesn’t, it leaves ground for their own subconscious to reject their dysphoria, claiming that they were just manipulated or deceived. The much more effective strategy is to talk about your own experiences with dysphoria so that they see the common grounds and come to their own conclusion about their gender.

          https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/am-i-trans

          looks a community name

          Not everybody is aware where exactly they are

    • garbagebagel@lemmy.world
      12·
      5 days ago

      In addition to the aforementioned egg paradox: it is okay to call yourself an egg, but it is not okay to call someone else an egg.

      Egg_irl comes from me_irl, thus always referring to oneself.

  • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    24·
    5 days ago

    I was skirtcurious in Jr high.

    I’m more “dominatrix-curious” and “lingerie-curious” nowadays since I’ve hatched.

    I cannot fathom a reason Faux would be reporting on this other than to make parents aware of slang terms so they can more easily punish their child for “being wrong”

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      23·
      5 days ago

      That’s why I shared this here. People should to be aware of when the bigots learn our terminology. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use the term egg, but we need to be even more careful about “egging,” as it was already a bad practice.

      • brookedSmile@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        6·
        5 days ago

        I think its not just egging people, i think putting labels on people and trying to tell them who or what they are is pretty icky behavior

    • PurpleStephyr@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      4 days ago

      Ya, I remember being disappointed in high school that the boys never organized a “wear the kilt to school day” while I was there. (I went to a uniform school). For totally cis reasons

      • compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        I went to a school with uniforms too, so guys could never wear anything but the uniform khaki pants. But when my Boy Scout patrol went to a Highland Games themed camporee, I definitely kept wearing the “kilt” to Scouts stuff for months. And they say there were never signs…