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I’m guessing ol’ Petey doesn’t know that the Spartans had a shit ton of help at the pass?
Sparta was one of the worst Greek States to ever exist. They were literally braindead, militaristic, psychopaths that practiced a primitive form of eugenics. They lost to Athens and Thebes (Sparta initially defeated them, installed a dictatorship that lasted only a decade, and we’re eventually BTFOd by Big Thebian Bulls) due to cultural, technological, and economic advantages.
The Spartans were so autistic about being warriors that they alienated themselves from the other Greek States. They even allied with the Persians in order to defeat Athens during their first major conflict.
Nothing the Spartans did made any sense. That’s why their empire crumbled to dust and are actually a very good allegory for why militaristic dictatorships should never rise.
This line of thinking is crazy to me cause I don’t see what’s so admirable about Sparta. They had this whole degenerate culture that was entirely dedicated to war and it only gave them a slight inconsistent military advantage. Also this advantage was made possible mostly by their excessive use of slave labor. They still got their asses handed out to them regularly…
They had this whole degenerate culture that was entirely dedicated to war and it only gave them a slight inconsistent military advantage. Also this advantage was made possible mostly by their excessive use of slave labor.
And you wonder why it appeals to american conservatives?
When he says “Sparta”, he means the movie 300, not actual Lakonia.
Ah, thank you for making a connection I missed
He probably imagines the non-factual Sparta which was claimed to throw crippled infants down the cliff. That is why he gets such a hard on when thinking about Sparta.
Well we are talking about the Epstein class, so they’re probably attracted to the pederasty more than any thing else.
Oh yeah, makes sense that people who are into child abuse would idolize them. I stand corrected.
This line of thinking is crazy to me cause I don’t see what’s so admirable about Sparta.
That’s the thing, they know nothing about Sparta. They just have a vague idea that Spartans are ruthless warriors that kill everything. They want to feel like they are psychopathic badasses.
Their education on this topic was watching 300
And even then not understanding what it was about. Same ones that use songs without permission and without comprehending the lyrics.
Same shit as their obsession with the Punisher. They don’t think about how the Punisher kills cops and has explicitly said he’ll kill any cop that imitates him. That doesn’t matter though because his logo and style are cool and that’s where their thinking on it begins and ends.
Spartans were tough guys in cool helmets that doesn’t afraid of anything so that’s that for them. Kinda fitting for them that they want to emulate a society with insitutionalized pederasty though.
It seems like slave labour gave them the freedom to do anything they wanted to do. Athens had very similar amounts of slave labour. They chose to use the free time that gave them to focus on philosophy and art. Sparta decided to make war their whole personality. It was something like boys entered military school as toddlers and didn’t leave until 30.
Still, the battle of Thermopylae was impressive. Yes, eventually they lost, but they managed to hold off a force that was at a minimum 10x their size for a week.
If anybody’s acting more Spartan these days, it’s the Iranians. The most powerful military in the world still hasn’t managed to wrest control over the chokepoint from them.
1: Their particularly brutal slavery is why they had to militarize their citizens (meaning a different thing in those days btw), not why they could.
2: The Greek alliance was expecting Thermopylae to hold indefinitely, the fortified position was considered impregnable. What was actually impressive was Persia defeating it, and the allied Greek navy fighting twice its number while inflicting decisive casualties, withdrawing in order, and then crushing the Persian fleet at Salamis and forcing the Persian army to withdraw or starve.
Although the fleet numbers are generally assumed to be lies and historians generally think the fleets were roughly even at Thermopylae.
you are thinking of Spartan actual history… the drunk the USA has in change of the military is thinking of Sparta as in the movie 300 which he thinks is a documentary
I thought the drunk was Kash Patel in charge of the FBI, who’s resume includes: “podcaster”. Hegseth is the Fox New host who is in charge of the military. All very tactical nominations who put us at every disadvantage
Hegseth is also a well known drunk
https://www.thelist.com/2132778/pete-hegseth-time-at-fox-news-haunted-by-controversy/
Remember, only the best people…
The drunk is both of them. Pete has to keep his wife around him so he doesn’t get day drunk at work.
The movie and sequel both have Sparta fighting and dying for Western Democracy, which Sparta was vehemently against when Greece imposed it.
Western Democracy
Reminder that Athenian democracy at the time was land-owning men voting to exile those who said things they didn’t like, and voting to steal the money in the common defense funds to use to repair Athens and build walls around it, and also fund garrisons around the other cities that were expected to keep paying into that fund, after the Persian threat was long gone - with the garrisons turned toward those cities.
Meanwhile Persia really was only attacking Greece to get them to stop attacking them
It was the movie that’s all.
These people have only watched movies and TV shows. They don’t know anything about the real world.
Even their vague misconception (based off of 300, no doubt) sounds like a fucking nightmare.
Well duh, they haven’t been taking children away from their parents and forcing them to fight big hairy predators at an early age like in 300… Oh wait.
